BUSH WINS DEBATE HANDS DOWN!!!!!
The following is my thoughts as the debate went on...
Bush is kicking butt at this debate. He is on fire! Kerry is out of his element now. Kerry is just rehashing tired old line and Bush is beating him badly. Kerry is still trying that old OBL line and no WMD yada yada. Kerry claims he is consistent. Bush is coming back powerfully, man is he holding a training lesson on debates for poor Kerry. Bush is giving a great explanation of why making an unpopular decision is right for America but that other countries may not like them. He is making it clear that for him America comes first unlike Kerry who thinks a Global test is necessary before making a move. Kerry is now talking and not very well, saying Bush will be more of the same. Still claiming the UN (despite the corruption at the UN) is the way to go. Bush is coming back hard at Kerry, not even waiting for a moment to respond. Man is Bush taking this over. Kerry is throwing wild baseless claims and looking bad.
Q to Kerry about Iran and is saying that the UN sanctions can not be relied on and is now saying that Iraq is the problem and... I think he lost his train of thought and I don't have a clue what the hell he is talking about. Now he's on N. Korea and the question is about Iran. Now he's off on Russia's nukes. What the hell is he talking about? Finally says he will get tough with Iran. Bush is coming back with a powerful retort and is on topic unlike Kerry. He is talking about Iran and what we are doing. Claims that Kerry is naive about N. Korea and about Kerry's plan to undermine the current talks wit 6 nations. Bush is beating Kerry's clock!
Draft question to Bush. He says we are not going to have a draft period. Talking about the transformation of the military and how we are doing. Masterful command of the subject. Bush is strong on this one also. He is fired up! Talking about using new technologies and how that changes the way we work. Kerry rebuts says he doesn't support draft but is back talking about former generals who support him and claiming military is overextended. Kinda dry and not very convincing. Now he claims he is going to add 40,000 to the military. Bush demands to respond and when Charlie tries to stop him he just starts talking, HE IS KICKING ASS! Kerry sounds weak and says his plan (what plan) is better... weak.
Question to Kerry. Why no attacks on US and what would he do. He is stumbling and wandering around and says he agrees with the president and says he could do better. (why)(how) Now he says he is back to the question but he is answering something else. What the hell is he talking about? Tax plan? What does that have to do with this? Nuts? Bush is calmly talking about the problems and beating Kerry up by talking about Kerry's record. He is solid and reassuring and talking about what he is doing and what Kerry has done wrong (his record) Hitting him with his words and is back on fire and clear. Man Kerry is being buried. Charlie to Kerry about when. Now Kerry accepts what Bush has said but but but is back talking about a tax cut. Bush is talking about the terrorists and how to defeat them. Bush has the command of the debate and Kerry is phoning it in.
Question to Bush. Drugs from Canada. Bush says he wants then to be safe and has not prevented them from coming in. Drugs coming from Canada might be from a third world and he just wants to make sure they are safe. Now talking about other ways of making drugs cheaper by allowing generic drugs. He is giving examples of personal experiences with people. Talks about working to help seniors. Kerry... Claims that Bush is lying (my words) says that Bush blocked it. Claims that he put profit in companies pocket. Bush, Right back powerfully. Beats up on Kerry for 20 years of nothing Kerry has done in the senate for medicare. Kerry claims he fixed it and is talking about balancing the budget and is talking about dept. Bush wins this one also.
Question to Kerry. About Edwards suing doctors and causing health care cost increases. Edwards made millions off doctors. Asking people to go to the internet? Lame. Back on subject but weakly. Trying to follow his rambling. Oh now he says he has a plan. Christ, another plan. Not answering the question about Edwards and is talking about tax increases. Bush, Senator Kerry is the most liberal senator of all. Says he is going to tax everybody here to pay for his plan. Says he could have showed up to vote for a bill on the senate that would take care of this. Saying he is a liberal and will create a huge government heath care programs. Kerry says he would look at things. But he doesn't like being called a liberal. Doesn't like labels, wants to talk about another plan. Bush fires back about Kerry not voting for it and Kerry didn't show up. Man!
Question to Bush. Not vetoing any spending bill? Bush talks about the deficit and the recession that started before he came into office and we are at war and he will spend whatever it takes to win the war. We have an obligation to spend that money and we cut taxes to get out of the recession and talks forcefully about how good things are now and how they are getting better. Haven't vetoed because we have worked together. He has a command of the subject and knows what he is talking about. On Fire! Kerry is talking about another plan. Talking about the deficit which is not the question but he seems to be floundering about what to say. Repeating tag lines and is not very clear about what the hell he is talking about.
Charlie. what about the deficit. Bush is retaking clearly about the deficit and how it came about and how we are working about it, Kerry is back on the wealthy tax cut crap. More tag lines, Oh Enron. sad. Bush is winning this hands down.
Question to Kerry. Pledge not to raise taxes and Kerry is saying yes. (Read my lips?) Talking about his tax plan. (Another plan) No details just talking about what he would do and harkens back to the 90's. Pledging not to raise taxes under $200K. Bush says he is not credible and brings up his senate record and now he is going to change all that. Bush is hitting him with facts and sounds very good and is detailed about what he has done and what he will do.
Charlie question to Kerry about his figures. Says he is wrong but gives no reason why. Just talking about his record. Bush he has a record of 20 years, you can run but you cannot hide. Calls him a liberal again and says he is not credible about what he says he is going to do about raising taxed.
Question to Bush. Environment. Diesel emissions, clear sky proposal, more things than I can type. Must be 8 or 9 proposals that protect the environment. Talks about protecting forests from fires. Good common sense policies. Hydrogen automobile proposal, coal proposals. Fewer water complaints. Good answer. Kerry claims he is not right. labels don't mean anything. Welfare reform, doesn't like labels. Doesn't like being called a liberal. No facts just rhetoric. Seems confused and rambling. He says he is going to believe is science. Bush says he the quality of air is cleaner since he took over. Kerry Kyoto treaty is flawed and he would sign it or something and says he would fix it. ???
Question to Kerry. How can US be competitive given the wages in other countries. Kerry is talking about tax loophole to move away and he would shut loophole. Give tax incentives to companies to stay here. Lower the cost of health care and rattles off some numbing numbers and pays for it with the tax increase to the rich. And rattles off lots of things he wants to spend money on. More freaking plans. Mind numbing plans. Bush control the cost of healthcare with liability reform. Health saving accounts, saving your own money. Outsourcing, Robert Ruben said Kerry's plan wouldn't work. Talks about several proposals Kerry/Edwards didn't show up to vote for. Tax the rich and you tax small business that hurt small business and hurt job growth. Charlie about his flaky plan. Kerry is talking about Bush owning a timber company. Bush makes a joke about it and the crown laughs and is talking about small business.
Question to Bush. Patriot Act and expansions and why are his rights being water down etc. Bush says he doesn't agree that his rights are being watered down and explains it very well and said he wouldn't sigh it if he thought it would. He details very convincingly how the act works and why it is necessary. Gives some examples of how it is working. A solid command of the subject. Kerry sounding weak and quoting others about the act and not giving any details but some stories. In effect he wants to get rid of it even though he voted for it. He's not a flip flopper and is now for the act. (WTF) Confusing answer.
Question to Kerry. Stem cells have cured a lot but no one cured by embryonic stem cells. Kerry dancing around the morality of the question and now talks about some others who want it. (What is he for here?) Wandering around without an answer. Now he thinks we can do them. (waiting for a clue here) (so what is it?) Now claims he wants the future. Bush is very cleat that to get embryonic stems cells kills a life and talks about balancing the ethics and science and talks that destroying life to save life is a dilemma. Talks about adult stem cells and how that helps. Kerry claims Bush is waffling (WTF) wandering around the issue and he says he will allow embryonic stem cells and will destroy life. Bush is commanding is this exchange.
Question to Bush. Who would he chose to replace a judge on the supreme court. Bush "I'm, not telling, I want them all to vote for me" He talks about picking one who would interpret the constitution and judges who had personal opinions would not be appointed. He would pick strict constructionists. Legislator make law and Judges interpret the constitution. Kerry, saying that Bush would put conservation judges on the court. (He would put liberal judges on wouldn't he) (waiting) He says he would pick the same but put some qualifications that are not constitutional.
Question to Kerry. Abortion paid for by tax dollars? (waiting for an answer) (he isn't answering the question and just waiting for a thought) (ah ah ah ah) (talking about the world and aids WTF is he talking about) didn't answer the question. Bush is clear, we are not going to spend federal money on abortion. He signed a ban on partial birth abortion. Talks about bills he signed about abortion and how he is working to promote an America that supports life. Man he is quietly doing a great job. Kerry said he is again partial birth abortion BUT and then no on parental notification. Bush Are you for a ban, yes or no and Kerry voted no and that is how it is. You can run but you can't hide on you record.
Final Question to Bush. Thousands of decisions that effect lives. Give three wrong one and what you did to correct them Bush. I have made many decisions. In war historians will look back and find reasons that things could be done different. I did not make a mistake in going into Iraq and talks about the report that came out today and how Sadam was doing things. Kerry says the president make huge mistakes and yada yada, inspectors, UN etc. Same old same old. Quoting others again, repeating himself. Iraq a bad idea etc. Bush retorts. Our troops don't have adequate equipment. Kerry and his 87 billion vote against the troops. Kerry about the 87 billion, old line he used before. Trying to explain his vote against the troops.
Kerry closing statement first. Trying to explain his global test but is careful not to mention it. Oh and he has a plan and a better plan but no details as usual. Another plan and another plan and another plan (man has a lot of plans) Poor poor poor
Bush closing statement. Talks about the future, who can lead and who can get things done. talks about where we have been and how things are going now. Things are better now and getting better. Keep taxes low, regs down, health care policy, energy plan and abroad. We are at war and we need a preside that is strong etc. (At 98 minutes he is still strong and powerful)
A CLEAR WIN FOR BUSH! No doubt about it!!!!!
